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Today, we have a one-on-one conversation
with Singaporean Nisar Keshvani about the phenomenon of blogs
and its impact on mainstream media in Singapore. Keshvani’s
career is as diverse as his travel experiences. He has worked
as a consultant, journalist, web developer, educator, new
media specialist, publicist, online arts magazine editor and
even film-maker. In the last decade, he has worked across
five continents (Asia, Africa, Europe, North America and Australia/Oceania).
Ruth Song discusses the credibility of blog websites with
him, and their impact on traditional newspapers.
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Ruth: Thank you Nisar for taking
time out of your busy schedule to talk to us.
Keshvani: No worries, Ruth.
Ruth: We are examining the impact blog websites
have on traditional newspapers especially in a Singaporean
context. I think the very first question would be: Do you
read blogs?
Keshvani: Yes but I must say, only occasionally,
purely due to lack of time. I edit a few online publications
and part of that means have a very high email traffic flow
- and tend to receive a lot of news, information and updates
through formal and informal sources.
I spend an average of 8 hours a day online, at the least.
Because of my heavy involvement with the web (as developer,
info architect and editor of an online journal) plus journalistic
training and nature of work ...
I tend not to go back to only a few particular sources of
information (or blogs) - my reading pattern, now that you
ask me, I realise is very diverse.
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It does not mean that if the government controls political
blogging - blog developers cannot be creative with how the
approach subject matter.
Some of the best work is produced with the least resources
and most restrictive environments.
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blogs that you usually read?
Keshvani: My interests are diverse and I read a
diverse range from Xiaxue to Cherian George’s, to
the Singapore elections blog to acid flask (blog of Singapore
government scholar who’s site was taken offline)
Ruth: In general, why do you read blogs?
Keshvani: The reason why I read them is …. I am interested
in:
a. Alternative points of views, or perspectives
b. Often these are written by folks, perhaps you may not
ordinarily have an opportunity to understand the perspective
of different people (Xiaxue - young person), Cherian George
(prolific journalist), Acid Flask (future generation Singapore
civil servant).
Ruth: Then, would you say you trust the credibility
of “serious” news blogs for example like Margo
Kingston’s Webdiary [http://www.webdiary.com.au],
Instapundit [http://www.instapundit.com] or Cherian George’s
blog [http://singaporemedia.blogspot.com]? Why?
Keshvani: Well - I guess with age, and wisdom,
and training, you realise to never take anything at face
value - no matter how highly or lowly credible they may
appear!
Not to sound pessimistic, but every source of information,
you will find may have a vested interest, or agenda. I seem
to have developed, what I presume is a journalist’s
instinct and read what I see, then make my own judgments.
Its very much like writing a news story, you interview a
few sources, check and re-check sources, and then try to
be as objective as possible.
Of course, with blogs or such, there isn't a need for such
brevity ....
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The media may seem different, when in fact, it’s not
new at all. So I feel we are blinded by excitement but not
utilising rationale. I strongly feel we are getting excited
by the medium when the message seriously has changed only
marginally.
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Ruth: On what basis do
you trust the credibility of Cherian George's opinion blog?
Keshvani: Well, in George’s case, I have read
his opinion pieces in the newspapers, his book, interviewed
him before, and read his work. So this "trust" as
you call it has developed over time, it’s a writer-reader
relationship that has developed over the years. Of course,
we have to remember at the end of the day, its all about perspective
– how accepting and agreeable we are to someone else’s
point of view. Ruth: As one who has much
experience in new media and journalism, having managed the
predecessor of the blog - a forum, taught online media and
journalism at Australian and Singaporean tertiary institutions,
completed a Masters’ thesis on the impact the internet
has had on mainstream news organisations and even worked as
a journalist in a variety of magazines/newspapers - what would
you say is the impact that such “serious” news
blogs have on traditional newspapers? |
| Keshvani: Well - this is hard
to say - one would have to do serious content analysis to
make a qualified judgement. My wildest guess this, like
all other developments take time.
Although the idea of blog may seem innovative, refreshing
and seems to have gained popularity today, in its simplest
form, it has existed for ages, perhaps just in a different
format?
Ruth: How about what we see today - the interaction of newspapers
with online news sites and their use of blogs?
Keshvani: We need to remember that in essence,
it’s very much like a diary – articulating an
individual’s opinion.
The format, the media and its accessibility may have evolved.
But it is not very different from the good old days, before
print and formal newspapers existed.
Every opinionated individual - intellectual or not, would
like to be heard, so what did they do in the old days? Write
it down – perhaps, only the distribution mechanism
has evolved - from courier pigeons, to notice boards, to
newspapers, to flyers and to online.
The pre-cursor to blogs are or were normal websites. Case
in point - Matt Drudge, who today is a landmark in online
journalism and widely referenced for his website: “The
Drudge Report". He broke the story on the former U.S.
President Bill Clinton's scandal with White House intern
Monica Lewinsky, way before the U.S. mainstream media.
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Although the idea of blog may seem innovative, refreshing
and seems to have gained popularity today, in its simplest
form, it has existed for ages, perhaps just in a different
format?
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The other worth nothing is Salam
Pax, a blogger from Iraq whose site "Where is Raed?"
received notable media attention during (and after) the
2003 invasion of Iraq. Within his blog, Salam discusses
the war, his friends and disappearances of people under
the government of Saddam Hussein. During the war, he gave
accounts of bombings and other attacks from Baghdad.
Of course, these were their opinions and not written journalisticly.
But purely because there was little supply of information
and lots of demand, they became credible sources of information
So now to answer your question.
I do believe there is an impact, but I am not sure how serious.
It’s just that blogs have made it easier and more
accessible for people with opinion to "broadcast"
their views
There is definitely a subtle impact because once in a while,
if you monitor the news carefully, you will read mentions
of blog sites in articles written by journalists like Tan
Tarn How and others citing blogs.
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Ruth: What is the general
view that newsrooms in Singapore have about blogs?
Keshvani: Well - I cannot give a qualified answer but my guess
is journalists are reading them. For a journalist to be good
at their profession they must read tremendous amounts of information
and it’s hard to identify particularly what they read,
or what influences them. But they have to keep up with the
trends Ruth: This, given that the new paper
blog hasn't be updated since last November?
Keshvani: Well the reality is this. The Internet
was a trendy and popular concept and thought to be the next
big thing from 1993 - 1999 or so. Newspapers invested high
capital into this field either because it was exciting and
new OR because they did not want to lose out to competition.
This was before the Internet Bubble burst. Its only about
18 - 24 months ago, that its become popular again. Case in
point, Straits Times Onlien is beefing up its online team,
and recently launched subscriptions to its complete online
versions. “Today” newspaper is trying
a different website model. Most are still in experimentation
phase and my guess is that although Singapore has one of highest
penetration internet rates, the penetration of online news
to its readers may not be as high. Hence the slight experimentation
of blogs and slowdown by the New Paper.
Ruth: Do you think then is there room for Singapore
to develop the use of blogs in their newspapers to improve
conversations with their readers?
Keshvani: Yes of course there is. My guess again,
but once it is thought to be useful and popular, am confident
it will pick up and maybe updated every minute - who knows,
right? Ruth: Given the kind of news atmosphere
we live in where the government controls political blogging?
Keshvani: Well - there are two sides of the argument
here. It does not mean that if the government controls political
blogging - blog developers cannot be creative with how the
approach subject matter.
Some of the best work is produced with the least resources
and most restrictive environments.
The other is – does the restriction on political blogging
- mean that if there is none, hence blogging becomes a failed
concept. There are many other areas too, one should not limit
to one particular subject matter and say it is a failure or
lost cause.
Also - due to various reasons, people may think there are
restrictions and build a glass ceiling within themselves and
be afraid to discuss issues and voice their opinions
There are highly critical individuals like Chua Beng Huat,
Cherian Cheorge and others who make salient points and yet
today continue to remain free to express their opinion. |
| Ruth: So you see even
the Straits Times having their own blog sometime in the
future?
Keshvani: The bottom line is readership. Its a
user-driven world we live in, and back to the basics of
economics - demand and supply.
If there is interest and need, resources are dedicated.
The onus is on the powers that be to firstly identify that
there is a need, and of course, more importantly to react
to that need.
Sometimes needs are identified but the follow up may not
be there - or rather not recognized.
Ruth: As a journalist, do you feel that journalism
can take place in the format of a blog?
Keshvani: Sure - why not. We should not confuse
the medium with the message. News or information has been
distributed by courier pigeon, by airwaves (radio), by pulp
(newspaper) and by electronic signals (TV).
The only difference in this evolution is the readership
and accessibility. It just burgeons with different mediums.
So blogs make it extremely easy for opinion dissemination.
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As the consumer gets more educated and discerning, the balance
will continue evolving and redistributing the mix. As corny
as it sounds, the only constant will be change.
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Ruth: So are blogs - meaning news
blogs - journalism in your context?
Keshvani: I guess it depends on how you define
journalism
Ruth: How would you define it?
Keshvani: is it strictly news? Or is it any opinion?
If you view it with an open mind and broaden your perspective,
then sure news blogs are journalism. Now - the important
differing factor here is not the medium BUT the message
deliverer.
How qualified is he or she? How well trained is the individual?
And is it mere opinion or is it information backed up with
knowledge, research and a keen understanding of issues?
A discerning reader can differentiate a layperson from a
trained professional at a glance.
So why is a news blog not journalism – this decision
is made by the user and how credibly they view the information.
Ruth: Having taught online media and journalism
in Singapore and Australia, do you feel that it is increasingly
important for journalism schools to teach students about
the dynamics of the blogging phenomenon? Or can this be
learnt “on the job”?
Keshvani: Yes of course - they need to be taught.
We cannot be left behind and need to adapt to new technologies
and media or modifications of the media ...
I would say that they should be quicker to pick up the trend,
since it is accessible and younger students are more adapt
than teachers.
Let me give you an example. In my Web Design Applications
class at Ngee Ann Polytechnic, one of my assignments was
to maintain a journal of ideas, discoveries and thoughts
– very Leonardo Da Vinci. Once, some students came
to me saying this is old school - I have a blog can I use
it instead?
I said sure – in fact, I found their work was better
online simply because they were better adept to new media
and used it daily. I myself, in fact, can type 2000 words
in a day but barely write five words on paper in that same
day, and that too, if I have too.
So to me its merely evolution of media - just a different
form of the beast. It’s just a matter of whether academics
are willing to be flexible and students are shown the ropes
to new innovations.
Ruth: Do you think Singapore is ready to accept
“serious” news blogs providing a more “credible”,
perhaps alternative voice to the news? Are Singaporeans
ready to accept opinions, maybe counter-mainstream media
voices from "credible" news blogs?
Keshvani: Who writes these credible blogs?
Ruth: if I said that it was a "credible"
person - one with industry qualifications and seems like
an expert on the matter?
Keshvani: If you look at the big picture, being
a media professional one tends to put our audience in boxes,
sometimes with very trendy terminology - ha ha! Two examples
are:
PMEB – Professionals, Managers, Executives, Business
People
DINKf – Double Income No Kids
Assuming we use convention, where our audience is identified
by their age, tastes, spending pattern and lifestyle, you
will realise that perhaps (bear in mind, I have done no
consumer research):
hardcopy newspapers are perhaps popular with older folks
- who love the feeling of picking up a fresh copy of news
and read it over breakfast or on way to work
Younger audiences - those in secondary school would perhaps
not read hardcopy newspapers as much but they have their
identified and favourite sources of news, even if it focusses
on the latest happenings in science fiction.
They may not read it first thing in the morning but they
read it online or perhaps download on their DOPOD or O2Mini
and read it in class or use their wireless laptop to read
in between lectures.
Young working professionals may sneak in a few minutes in
the midst of writing a report at work - to read the news.
With variety (in terms of media formats) they have access
to varied options.
So to answer your question. Sure, there will be a constant
stream of readers – it just revolves around their
lifestyle.
The bigger question is - are there big enough numbers or
enough interest for a newspaper to dedicate credible resources
for the long-term. If there is sufficient need and return
on investment - be it in the form of increased revenue,
high quality regular positive feedback or increased readership.
There would be an impetus to keep things going. I am not
sure if my view is simplistic - but perhaps that is the
bottom line.
Ruth: Interesting stuff! It makes me see that my
initial question is not as important as this next one. I
was going to ask if Singaporeans are willing to hear alternative
voices and then I realised, we've always had dissenting
voices. Before it was contained in the coffee shop but now,
the coffee shop talk has found its way to a more pervasive
medium.
Keshvani: The media may seem different, when in
fact, it’s not new at all. So I feel we are blinded
by excitement but not utilising rationale. I strongly feel
we are getting excited by the medium when the message seriously
has changed only marginally.
The reason why the news profession exists is because, there
is someone out there to read them
The crux of the matter is this: the news professionals need
to do what they do best!
Identify the best means to disseminate relevant, up-to-date
and objective news to their readers. The public, I guess,
will unknowingly decide for themselves what is of interest
to them and in what format and from whom they find news
reliable and credible. As the consumer gets more educated
and discerning, the balance will continue evolving and redistributing
the mix. As corny as it sounds, the only constant will be
change.
It’s only a matter of how fast and how adept both
the consumer and news professional is.
Ruth: Thank you very much Nisar for your invaluable
input.
Keshvani: Glad to be of service.
Sources/resources:
- Singapore:
New Media, Politics & the Law
- Singapore
Blog
- Where
is Raed? by Salam Pax
- The
Drudge Report
- Xiaxue.blogspot.com
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